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	<title>Comments on: Submerging Church</title>
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	<description>Sound, Image, Faith and Culture</description>
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		<title>By: Fernando Gros</title>
		<link>http://fernandogros.com/?p=414&#038;cpage=1#comment-18195</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando Gros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ubertech and toni,

can&#039;t argue with that at all.

brandon, 

i will post a follow up to reflect a little more on you comments.  you&#039;ve rasied a very good question there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ubertech and toni,</p>
<p>can’t argue with that at all.</p>
<p>brandon, </p>
<p>i will post a follow up to reflect a little more on you comments.  you’ve rasied a very good question there.</p>
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		<title>By: ubertech</title>
		<link>http://fernandogros.com/?p=414&#038;cpage=1#comment-18188</link>
		<dc:creator>ubertech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we need people who will do what God tells them to
when
and how
he tells them to do it
then we start to see what (we claim) we believe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we need people who will do what God tells them to<br />
when<br />
and how<br />
he tells them to do it<br />
then we start to see what (we claim) we believe</p>
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		<title>By: ryan torma</title>
		<link>http://fernandogros.com/?p=414&#038;cpage=1#comment-18184</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan torma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Emerging: Identity and Context&lt;/strong&gt;

Fernando Gros, Mark Van Steenwyck and several others I have spoken to this week seem to all be talking about the same question: Is the emerging church is really emerging or just regular church? This is a question I have...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Emerging: Identity and Context</strong></p>
<p>Fernando Gros, Mark Van Steenwyck and several others I have spoken to this week seem to all be talking about the same question: Is the emerging church is really emerging or just regular church? This is a question I have…</p>
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		<title>By: Toni</title>
		<link>http://fernandogros.com/?p=414&#038;cpage=1#comment-18181</link>
		<dc:creator>Toni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thoughts, and I&#039;m going to try to digest this.

IMO the churches need to rise up from what they are to reach the world, rather than just changing what they are. God&#039;s church working in unity, rather than coming together as different churches that have temporarily agreed to cooperate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts, and I’m going to try to digest this.</p>
<p>IMO the churches need to rise up from what they are to reach the world, rather than just changing what they are. God’s church working in unity, rather than coming together as different churches that have temporarily agreed to cooperate.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://fernandogros.com/?p=414&#038;cpage=1#comment-18180</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some good thoughts, Fernando.  I think it is a bit of a strange tension.  Most who are passionate about the church want to see the whole church healthy, effective, and together, even those parts most fully immersed in Christendom.  I think if &quot;emerging church&quot; dialogue can persuade the leaders of Christendom on an ecclesiological level and also &quot;bore down into culture&quot; and extend to those outside Christendom structures, it&#039;s an ideal balance.  At what point do you give up trying to persuade those in Christendom?  At what point does it only distract from being missional?  Do we ever stop trying?  Dunno.  Seems like a messy process to me, but well worth it to align ourselves with Divine activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some good thoughts, Fernando.  I think it is a bit of a strange tension.  Most who are passionate about the church want to see the whole church healthy, effective, and together, even those parts most fully immersed in Christendom.  I think if “emerging church” dialogue can persuade the leaders of Christendom on an ecclesiological level and also “bore down into culture” and extend to those outside Christendom structures, it’s an ideal balance.  At what point do you give up trying to persuade those in Christendom?  At what point does it only distract from being missional?  Do we ever stop trying?  Dunno.  Seems like a messy process to me, but well worth it to align ourselves with Divine activity.</p>
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